Vancouver Riot Downtown after Canucks Lose Stanley Cup 2011

To check out the charges against people you can search here
https://eservice.ag.gov.bc.ca/cso/e...4NaxaTbN4Mai0MchaRaNaSc390n6jAmljGr5XDqQLvpAe

 

ROTFL, I thought it was a great re-edit.
It's not ignorant at all, have a laugh over it.
Sorry everyone, but % of intelligent people that live in BC has dropped, the riot footage says it all.

I also like the Black & Lee store video of the rich UBC Asian's students looting... I hope the cops find you and deport you people back to the sweat shops! When did UBC become a school for rich societal retards?

I can't afford too go too UBC, and at this point I am glad!

 

look on criagslist.. you'll see why surry is taking heat

 

Rioters are all losers. I even picked up my 'Rioters Suck' t-shirt here and can also get 'friends don't let friends riot'

 

Someone came up with a much more comprehensive index than me of outed rioters:
http://www.forumvancouver.com/threads/vancouver-riot-list-of-exposed-individuals.1319/

 

First and foremost, Get your facts straight.
Majority of the people caught and arrested are NOT FROM SURREY. Some of which have scholarships to fantastic universities, and come from good homes in Burnbay or New Westminister. Stop being so damn arrogant and smell the air around you. These are kids 17 - 22 years old, of all genders, nationalities, and race. They could be your kids for all you know.

 

An ER Nurse from St. Paul's Hospital responds to Tim's apology:

 

Please watch this video and help find these fools.

Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs7qgGrM7pQ&feature=player_embedded

 

saw this

 

I haven't been able to find anyone relevant with that, probably takes a few weeks/months for them to process everything.

 

I think its quite clever actually - and a sad realization too. Very powerful.

 

Agreed. It doesn't matter if you are a good citizen. People need to consider the consequences of their actions no matter what.

 

^I can somewhat see how the consequences might not be so apparent during a riot though. No one could have predicted the huge social media backlash.

If Jason Li smashed a couple of windows outside of a riot or if Camille shoplifted normally, they wouldn't have received the same kind of backlash from friends and media. You can even argue that regular shoplifting and vandalism is worse because of the mob mentality factor. I highly doubt that Jason or Camille would have done what they did if it wasn't for the riot. The way I see it, they were victims of weak peer pressure resistance and succumbed to a flaw in human psychology. Outside of the riot, I bet Jason or Camille would be able to contribute positively to society.

You could summarize this as: what people did during the riot might not represent who they are normally. Think about it this way, the majority of people become bystanders during emergencies, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are uncaring individuals.

I wasn't involved in the riot and highly doubt I would have participated, but I can't say for sure that I wouldn't have, given the right circumstances. Just take a look at the disgusting and downright illegal behaviour of some of the people in the facebook group identifying rioters; they are exhibiting the same type of mob mentality as the rioters and I would bet a lot of them would have joined in on the looting and car flipping if they were there.

Outed individuals have essentially become poster boys and girls for the riot and are receiving an unimaginable amount of hate. In some ways, the backlash and hate will deter future riots to some extent but I can't help but feel sorry for the disproportional punishment that these individuals will have to endure. Don't get me wrong, these people should be punished, but it's important to think about the context of the situation.

 

Yup, Camille and Jason are getting tons of heat. I almost feel sorry for them. But then I realize that I should actually save that sympathy for the owner of Blenz, Mr. Mackay who defended the Bay and the people who had their weddings ruined when Black and Lee got trashed.

 

^At least business owners have insurance.

I think it's careless to lump Camille, Jason etc. with those that burned cars and assaulted people. I feel no remorse for anyone that assaulted people and they are the ones that should be taking most of the heat, not just the people who were easy to identify. Otherwise, we should be blaming the bystanders, photographers and enablers too because they had an essential role in the riot.

You can say that without the photographs and videos, people wouldn't have been identified. However, if people weren't standing around and getting in the way, there wouldn't have been much of a riot to begin with. People do dumb things in a riot because there's a crowd. In that sense, the bystanders are part of the riot too.

 

Here is Camille Cacnio's full apology if anyone is interested: http://camillecacnioapology.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/dear-vancouver-i-am-sorry/

She makes some very good points that I agree with wholeheartedly but she should have left out the "why I don't think I deserve this treatment" part. The angry mob is going to pick and fixate on that part alone and most won't even bother to read the rest of her post. In some parts, she has a bit of a condescending tone so it's obviously not a well thought out "apology".

People are going to read it and think:

 

To be very bluntly honest, I don't think it's fair to have this one mistake wreck someone's life.

In fact, in my opinion this rioting is nothing compared to pedophiles and kidnappers out there who aren't found and aren't cared about. Wait, a homeless teen wandering the streets? No one cares, I know what they did was stupid but we're in no position to say that they should have "thought." If people can always think for themselves in a crowd then there wouldn't be a society in the first place. It's a fact that people act differently in a crowd vs. by themselves and they should be charged but I don't see why some of them need to be isolated and punished more.

Definitely those who stood up to defend, I give them props and my whole heart. It deeply saddens me that some of them were hurt but this event is something that BC can learn from. We lack police force and we lack in protection, let's take this as something to learn rather than constant ranting.

 

Here's how I see it, the riot was made up of the following non-mutually exclusive groups:

1. People who came just to start a riot
2. Drunk idiots that aren't very good people to begin with
3. Normally decent people that just succumbed to the "high" of the riot
4. Marginalized groups that took the riot as an opportunity to unleash their frustration
5. Bystanders

It's clear that some groups used the riot as an opportunity to unleash their frustration at the government and bureaucracy but I think they are only a minority of the riot participants. Hence, I don't think the riot as a whole is indicative of how (un)happy our society is.

 

A person's actions not only affect himself/herself, it also affects other people. Regardless of how these criminals behave normally, they have clearly shown what they are capable of when all hell breaks loose. It doesn't really matter how caring these individuals are because they have shown how dangerous and reckless they are when they are "in the moment".

I too wasn't involved in the riot, and I'm no perfect angel, but I know whenever a situation gets out of hand, I stop and think to myself: whats the right thing to do?

So why can't these individuals do this? Are they any different than me? I'm just any regular person and I can do this, so why can't they do it? My belief is that they purposely chose not to think about whats morally right and wrong, and instead did something that they thought gave them a huge thrill.

So now they face the consequences, and yet certain individuals here feel sorry for what these criminals did? It worries me how easily our society forgives. It just gives criminals more motivation to repeat their crimes.

As for the disproportional punishment, I think that as more people are identified, they will get their fair share of punishment. Jason and Camille just simply had the luxury of being the first ones named, that's all. And if any of you read Camille's "apology", you'd realize she is clearly not taking responsibility for her crimes. Her so called apology is full of excuses and anger directed back at people who criticize her. Its almost as if she just gave everyone the finger. I'd say continue the hate on her!

But to clarify, I do not condemn any type of harassment towards family members of these criminals. If anything, we should feel sorry for them because they had to deal with pieces of garbage like Nathan, Jason, Camille etc...

 

Is it the riot or is it the witch hunt ?